osteoarthritis

Yikes, I feel like I'm not far behind!

Same here. But, hey, 20 years is a lot of hockey to do before then, so live it up!

Originally Posted by ItechWarrior

Yikes, I feel like I'm not far behind!

stop saying that I'm still telling people I'm young and your not that much older than me if your older at all......your ruining my fantasy that I'm still young and hip......ok fine I've never been hip but atleast I could always say I was young........and sucks to hear Caveman I play hockey with a guy who broke a vertebrae in his back and he can't fence anymore and he was like top 50 in the country and he talks about how much an injury forcing him to stop doing something he loved sucks.
I can't imagine not playing goal hopefully you can continue to play for a long time or worst case become one of those guys who isn't a goalie not sure what they are called lol

Originally Posted by caveman27

It's official. I'm old. I got my shoulder checked out and the X-ray showed early signs of osteoarthritis. I've got about 20 years before I need a shoulder replacement.

I'm getting an MRI soon as the X-ray didn't show a root cause of my shoulder pain. Possibly looking at arthroscopic surgery.

Unfortunately, more and more research shows that neither xrays nor MRIs are reliable indicators of the root cause of shoulder pain. How wrong are MRI’s? | Upright Health | Musings from San Diego's Rolfing and Egoscue Specialists

Originally Posted by Badgerit

Unfortunately, more and more research shows that neither xrays nor MRIs are reliable indicators of the root cause of shoulder pain. How wrong are MRI’s? | Upright Health | Musings from San Diego's Rolfing and Egoscue Specialists

I wouldn't be surpised if nothing showed up on the MRI. I got me knee scoped years ago after I heard a loud pop in my knee (from fencing oddly enough) and pain that didn't go away. Nothing showed up on the X-ray or MRI.

second reference to fencing in this one post. how many of you fence as well? I started it up a few years ago with my then 9yo son. but have since stoped because of back issues.

Im impressed that they gave such a long prediction of 20yrs. I dont really understand how someone can predict 20yrs until you need shoulder surgery, there are so many variables in 20yrs of life. I agree that imaging offers little value to "root cause" but is great value, especially MRI, for current condition.

Originally Posted by snowdragon3

second reference to fencing in this one post. how many of you fence as well? I started it up a few years ago with my then 9yo son. but have since stoped because of back issues.

Im impressed that they gave such a long prediction of 20yrs. I dont really understand how someone can predict 20yrs until you need shoulder surgery, there are so many variables in 20yrs of life. I agree that imaging offers little value to "root cause" but is great value, especially MRI, for current condition.

I think you misunderstood that article I linked to. The point of it is that even WITHOUT symptoms of pain, an MRI on a shoulder will still show anatomical "abnormalities" that appear to require surgery. As one of the docs in the article notes, if you want someone to give you a reason to have surgery on your shoulder, get an MRI. This is true in MRI's of the back as well, incidentally.

I had a client last year who couldn't lift her hand out to the side and up above the head (like the jumping jacks arm motion). They said she had bone spurs and what appeared to be torn rotator cuff tendons that had been damaged 10 years ago. They put her on a month of physical therapy (with the standard regimen of heat and rotator cuff exercises). She saw no improvement, so they said surgery to remove the bone spurs would do the trick. Her friend cajoled her into seeing me (and she didn't want the surgery either), and after 45 minutes of stretches to help her body get proper muscle balance again, she was able to move her hand up to the side and ALMOST up to the full jumping jack motion. It took another 2 weeks for the muscle strength in some of the stabilizers to come back to be able to do the full motion.

I've had 4-5 buddies from hockey undergo shoulder surgery to try to repair instability and pain. One of them has had 4 revision on that surgery last I checked. It's one of the reasons when I hurt my shoulder almost 10 years ago (and it stayed hurt), I didn't want to go the knife route.

I got my MRI results. I have Pac-Man fever. Just kidding. But, I'll be getting arthroscopic surgery next month.