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This is a discussion on Butterfly Widening Challenge within the Off-Ice Training forums, part of the The Clinic category; Originally Posted by MRDRUNKENMONKEY Feel free to join, just know that it will hurt. Drill Sgt. always said to us ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRDRUNKENMONKEY View Post
    Feel free to join, just know that it will hurt. Drill Sgt. always said to us pain is weakness leaving the body, i hope this statement applies to this group of stretches. On the bright side it seems like a great way to tone your bum!
    Nope...does not apply to the stretches. If you are feeling PAIN - then you are trying to force your stretches - I suggest you go to the point of a medium stretch and absolutely no further than a very mild discomfort with your stretches. It takes time for your tissues to adapt - you cannot force this.
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    No no not like ouch pain more like that feels good discomfort lol. A little burn thats all. I know better then to push my myself to the point of injury, but thank you for your support on the matter .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRDRUNKENMONKEY View Post
    No no not like ouch pain more like that feels good discomfort lol. A little burn thats all. I know better then to push my myself to the point of injury, but thank you for your support on the matter .
    Yes - exactly! Just making sure...I know some of you are super hard core, which I love, but I want you to stay healthy.
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    Ok maybe it's all the yoga, but I have a tendency to want to do "opposite" stretches, to kind of counteract the stretches I just did. For example, all the internal rotation of these stretches, especially the one where you're lying on your back pinching your knees together, really makes me want to do the opposite right afterwards. So I added this to the routine. After doing the pinching stretches, I do this one. It feels great, and it makes me feel like stuff is a little more balanced. (Note: what they say in point 3 is important).

    Does that make any sense? And, Maria, is it ok to add that? I just always feel like I need to balance things out when I stretch.

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    my current butterfly

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    Quote Originally Posted by maalivahti View Post
    Ok maybe it's all the yoga, but I have a tendency to want to do "opposite" stretches, to kind of counteract the stretches I just did. For example, all the internal rotation of these stretches, especially the one where you're lying on your back pinching your knees together, really makes me want to do the opposite right afterwards. So I added this to the routine. After doing the pinching stretches, I do this one. It feels great, and it makes me feel like stuff is a little more balanced. (Note: what they say in point 3 is important).

    Does that make any sense? And, Maria, is it ok to add that? I just always feel like I need to balance things out when I stretch.
    You are free to do what ever yoga poses you wish. Athletes do not have to stretch opposing muscle groups always, it depends what you are trying to accomplish - you are not trying to counteract the effect of the stretches you just did. Flexibility follows a continuum with some muscle groups displaying too much flexibility and others displaying too little. Given that many people spend the much of their day with their hips in external rotation - sitting in the car - sitting at work or in school - if your feet are pointing out and your knees are pointing out, you are already in external rotation.

    To improve your butterfly you need to improve internal rotation of the hip. If you feel better to do some external rotation afterward, then go for it, however it won't improve your butterfly which is the objective of this specific program.

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    As I'm just starting out, I'd like to participate if I'm not too late. I'm pretty new to Hockey (3mo) and brand-new to goalie. Starting out at 32yo, defiantly need to improve flexability.

    Will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revconditioning View Post
    To improve your butterfly you need to improve internal rotation of the hip. If you feel better to do some external rotation afterward, then go for it, however it won't improve your butterfly which is the objective of this specific program.
    Yes I definitely realize it would have nothing to do with improving the butterfly. I guess I just wanted to make sure if I threw that in there, it wouldn't counteract anything I had been doing. And being a newbie at all this anatomy stuff, I didn't realize that sitting (at a desk, in a car) is external rotation. Interesting!

    So I'm just left with- it feels really good to do that, especially after that one stretch. Will this harm the objective of the program?

    Thanks! :)

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    I started this challenge on Aug 23rd my initial stretch as far as I could to start was 39.5" big toe to big toe. I'm keeping a log of every day noting which days I do the strength/activation portion of the excercise, which is just regular and any days that I miss so I can get an accurate look at how many days stretching vs how much improvement I will see. I definitely look at this as a challenge for my own improvement, however if I was putting money on it, I think you guys with span in the 20ish range are going to see the most improvement by far. Anyways cheers everyone,

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    Quote Originally Posted by azmatsci View Post
    As I'm just starting out, I'd like to participate if I'm not too late. I'm pretty new to Hockey (3mo) and brand-new to goalie. Starting out at 32yo, defiantly need to improve flexability.

    Will.
    I'm 31.5" from middle to middle of big toe.

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